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	<title>Comments on: Hayate no Gotoku! - 48</title>
	<link>http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/03/08/hayate-no-gotoku-48/</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Haesslich</title>
		<link>http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/03/08/hayate-no-gotoku-48/#comment-17072</link>
		<dc:creator>Haesslich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adun:  He likes girls older than Nagi, because he's pure and honest and not a pervert, unlike Stripey. ;)  He can't get past the idea that she's too young right now to think of like that... just as he can't think of Isumi or Sakuya the same way.  The reason he said 'older girls' to Maria in the beginning was because he thought he'd tripped her relationship flag, and if he'd said he liked younger girls that path would've closed right there and then.  

At the same time, Hina's warmth is something he can understand and appreciate, while NAgi... doesn't quite have it.  She covers for her own actions too well for her own good; he thinks she's being benevolent because of pity, and the fact she throws money around like it's water makes it worse in terms of the whole 'love-love' situation - he can't think of being rich while saddled with that debt, and she can't imagine him NOT thinking of riches or money.  Which means she can easily (and has, in some instances) by admitting to casual impulse buying on a scale which he can't even imagine... because she's never had to worry about money.  Sorta like how the Host Club tends to offend Haruhi Fujioka at times because they have a 'rich person's way of thinking' and their 'common sense' and attempts at understanding commoner values comes off as extremely patronizing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adun:  He likes girls older than Nagi, because he&#8217;s pure and honest and not a pervert, unlike Stripey. <img src='http://www.moemoerabu.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  He can&#8217;t get past the idea that she&#8217;s too young right now to think of like that&#8230; just as he can&#8217;t think of Isumi or Sakuya the same way.  The reason he said &#8216;older girls&#8217; to Maria in the beginning was because he thought he&#8217;d tripped her relationship flag, and if he&#8217;d said he liked younger girls that path would&#8217;ve closed right there and then.  </p>
<p>At the same time, Hina&#8217;s warmth is something he can understand and appreciate, while NAgi&#8230; doesn&#8217;t quite have it.  She covers for her own actions too well for her own good; he thinks she&#8217;s being benevolent because of pity, and the fact she throws money around like it&#8217;s water makes it worse in terms of the whole &#8216;love-love&#8217; situation - he can&#8217;t think of being rich while saddled with that debt, and she can&#8217;t imagine him NOT thinking of riches or money.  Which means she can easily (and has, in some instances) by admitting to casual impulse buying on a scale which he can&#8217;t even imagine&#8230; because she&#8217;s never had to worry about money.  Sorta like how the Host Club tends to offend Haruhi Fujioka at times because they have a &#8216;rich person&#8217;s way of thinking&#8217; and their &#8216;common sense&#8217; and attempts at understanding commoner values comes off as extremely patronizing.</p>
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		<title>By: Adun</title>
		<link>http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/03/08/hayate-no-gotoku-48/#comment-17061</link>
		<dc:creator>Adun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, someone else who agrees Hinagiku is a better tsundere than Nagi. Although I only have read upto whatever the scanlations of the manga, I can tell that Hinagiku can be quite dere-dere. Hina is definitely the most suited for Hayate, but I Ayumu is nowhere near that level, but at least she fares better than Nagi ever will. The only other thing that bonds Hayate and Nagi together is definitely the debt that he has and it really can't go any further than that, unless we get some kind of unexpected development, but that's something we won't see in the anime. Hayate will never see Nagi as anything more than the one person who saved him since 1) he is pretty dense, and 2) he likes older girls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, someone else who agrees Hinagiku is a better tsundere than Nagi. Although I only have read upto whatever the scanlations of the manga, I can tell that Hinagiku can be quite dere-dere. Hina is definitely the most suited for Hayate, but I Ayumu is nowhere near that level, but at least she fares better than Nagi ever will. The only other thing that bonds Hayate and Nagi together is definitely the debt that he has and it really can&#8217;t go any further than that, unless we get some kind of unexpected development, but that&#8217;s something we won&#8217;t see in the anime. Hayate will never see Nagi as anything more than the one person who saved him since 1) he is pretty dense, and 2) he likes older girls.</p>
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		<title>By: Haesslich</title>
		<link>http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/03/08/hayate-no-gotoku-48/#comment-17054</link>
		<dc:creator>Haesslich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nevermind - made the comment elsewhere.  But yes, she's a better tsundere.. and one which is actually GOOD at it, and looks good doing it.  Plus, she and Hayate have bonds that he and Nagi don't have due to age differences as well as the sheer gap that exists between them due to their lifestyles and how they grew up; he just can't get past the idea of NOT having to worry about money, and seems quite bothered by the idea of thoughtless waste which Nagi embodies (remember when she shattered a chair on Wataru's head which cost as much as a furisode would have - or about $50000).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind - made the comment elsewhere.  But yes, she&#8217;s a better tsundere.. and one which is actually GOOD at it, and looks good doing it.  Plus, she and Hayate have bonds that he and Nagi don&#8217;t have due to age differences as well as the sheer gap that exists between them due to their lifestyles and how they grew up; he just can&#8217;t get past the idea of NOT having to worry about money, and seems quite bothered by the idea of thoughtless waste which Nagi embodies (remember when she shattered a chair on Wataru&#8217;s head which cost as much as a furisode would have - or about $50000).</p>
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		<title>By: Haesslich</title>
		<link>http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/03/08/hayate-no-gotoku-48/#comment-17050</link>
		<dc:creator>Haesslich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.moemoerabu.net/2008/03/08/hayate-no-gotoku-48/#comment-17050</guid>
		<description>I think I said here that Hina is a better tsundere (she's more tsun-tsun when she needs to be - witness Volume 6 of the manga), but can get QUITE dere-dere when the situation calls for it (I'm thinking of a certain two-page spread in volume 10)... and she's more elegant than Nagi is, which means she can actually attract and HOLD  Hayate's attention.  Plus, she doesn't labor under the 'she's too young for me' handicap that Nagi has - Nishizawa and Hina are definitely more in the running at the moment, even if it looks like they may not stay that way with the more recent manga volumes.

And yes, those two do have better chemistry; they've got similar backgrounds... and Nagi has a hard time understanding Hayate's world, just as he can't really seem to 'get' the world of rich people - which provides a major barrier for understanding, which is PART of why things have gone the way they have in manga and anime (I'm thinking of Nagi's attempt at being the cold tsundere type in Volume 5 during the Titanic incident, and its anime adaptation... and Klaus blew her away with his own cold, tsun-tsun attitude which got Hayate blushing).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I said here that Hina is a better tsundere (she&#8217;s more tsun-tsun when she needs to be - witness Volume 6 of the manga), but can get QUITE dere-dere when the situation calls for it (I&#8217;m thinking of a certain two-page spread in volume 10)&#8230; and she&#8217;s more elegant than Nagi is, which means she can actually attract and HOLD  Hayate&#8217;s attention.  Plus, she doesn&#8217;t labor under the &#8217;she&#8217;s too young for me&#8217; handicap that Nagi has - Nishizawa and Hina are definitely more in the running at the moment, even if it looks like they may not stay that way with the more recent manga volumes.</p>
<p>And yes, those two do have better chemistry; they&#8217;ve got similar backgrounds&#8230; and Nagi has a hard time understanding Hayate&#8217;s world, just as he can&#8217;t really seem to &#8216;get&#8217; the world of rich people - which provides a major barrier for understanding, which is PART of why things have gone the way they have in manga and anime (I&#8217;m thinking of Nagi&#8217;s attempt at being the cold tsundere type in Volume 5 during the Titanic incident, and its anime adaptation&#8230; and Klaus blew her away with his own cold, tsun-tsun attitude which got Hayate blushing).</p>
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